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BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Spadie - Wednesday, January 11th, 2023

BettyBoop said that SR needs boost, are you want BOOST for SR?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Jeisson/marry - Wednesday, January 11th, 2023

yeah need a boost

https://ibb.co/7VdJqpM

and yet it will die to my DA


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Dexter - Wednesday, January 11th, 2023

ofc, tanks counter archers, whats your point dumbass


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - foxx - Wednesday, January 11th, 2023

(Wednesday, January 11th, 2023, 07:24 PM)Spadie Wrote: BettyBoop said that SR needs boost, are you want BOOST for SR?
Yes Sr Weak! Pw too Weak(need + dmg in skill + Pdef), Sh Weak Too, hurricane does less dmg than vamp!


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Jeisson/marry - Wednesday, January 11th, 2023

(Wednesday, January 11th, 2023, 08:28 PM)Dexter Wrote: ofc, tanks counter archers, whats your point dumbass
calm down dexter, you've been very stressed, you need flowers to brighten your day  Heart


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - lLegOLas - Thursday, January 12th, 2023

SPS - TH

also needs tweaks


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Dexter - Thursday, January 12th, 2023

this topic is in relations to SR only


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Spadie - Thursday, January 12th, 2023

What needs boosting on SR?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - BettyBoop - Friday, January 13th, 2023

P.atk for sure bc SR dmg sux


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Dexter - Friday, January 13th, 2023

id say both P and Crit DMG, even Crit rate maybe


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Berom - Friday, January 13th, 2023

Evasion , Cast speed, m def, hp , mana , atk speed, crit , crit dmg, quick recovery rate, double arrow special skill, recovery time reduce on stun shot, patk, matk, accuarcy, resist everything, pdef. It's a white suprimacy race. give it everything it needs to kill BRS. Also block elves for BRs.

(Friday, January 13th, 2023, 07:04 PM)Berom Wrote: Evasion , Cast speed, m def, hp , mana , atk speed, crit , crit dmg, quick recovery rate, double arrow special skill, recovery time reduce on stun shot, patk, matk, accuarcy, resist everything, pdef. It's a white suprimacy race. give it everything it needs to kill BRS. Also block elves for BRs.
supremacy*


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Uygar - Saturday, January 14th, 2023

boost for SR! omg lol


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - xakrete - Thursday, January 19th, 2023

(Thursday, January 12th, 2023, 11:31 PM)Spadie Wrote: What needs boosting on SR?

What I believe is missing for the ELFO archer, is the recharge time of each ARROW used, USING ARMA HEROI we have a lot of attack SPEED BUT it is worthless since the arrows take a long time to shoot, Since the ELFO archer has features the constant CRITICAL attack, and already removed and now also a speed without any EFFECTIVENESS.


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Berom - Friday, January 20th, 2023

(Thursday, January 19th, 2023, 08:32 PM)xakrete Wrote:
(Thursday, January 12th, 2023, 11:31 PM)Spadie Wrote: What needs boosting on SR?

What I believe is missing for the ELFO archer, is the recharge time of each ARROW used, USING ARMA HEROI we have a lot of attack SPEED BUT it is worthless since the arrows take a long time to shoot, Since the ELFO archer has features the constant CRITICAL attack, and already removed and now also a speed without any EFFECTIVENESS.

Im old, could you please write it in even bigger letters?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Spadie - Sunday, January 22nd, 2023

SR is getting boost for BettyBoop next RR

SR will get more patk/matk.
Hero bow will get more patk.
Empower Buff scrolls bug fixed.


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Dexter - Monday, January 23rd, 2023

nice, thanks man


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Spadie - Friday, January 27th, 2023

mwraki said to remove the "Hero bow will get more patk." because it makes PR/HK too strong now.

Are you agree?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - lLegOLas - Friday, January 27th, 2023

(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 01:41 AM)Spadie Wrote: mwraki said to remove the "Hero bow will get more patk." because it makes PR/HK too strong now.

Are you agree?
yes I agree, it was said that it would be an upgrade on the SR and not on the bow


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - xakrete - Friday, January 27th, 2023

(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 01:41 AM)Spadie Wrote: mwraki said to remove the "Hero bow will get more patk." because it makes PR/HK too strong now.

Are you agree?
I don't see a skill in a weapon as an additional positive, I just think positive when I talk about taking the attack delay from one arrow to another in the SR, since it doesn't have its characteristic of a lot of attack or also a lot of HP, but a lot of Speed , Attack Speed and Critical.

Diabolico and I tested a BOW Haste + Royal Haste on his CHAR and it practically shot the same amount of ARROWS than BOW HERO and also NO ROYAL HASTE ...

so my point of view just modify ATTACK TIME of arrows.

About DASH LVL 3 in Human Dagger ??? Take it out immediately or the server will just have Dagger.

152k P attack on DAGGER with DASH lvl3 and 354 Critical hahaha practically a TITAN with FRENZY hahaha



RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Berom - Friday, January 27th, 2023

(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 11:09 AM)xakrete Wrote:
(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 01:41 AM)Spadie Wrote: mwraki said to remove the "Hero bow will get more patk." because it makes PR/HK too strong now.

Are you agree?
I don't see a skill in a weapon as an additional positive, I just think positive when I talk about taking the attack delay from one arrow to another in the SR, since it doesn't have its characteristic of a lot of attack or also a lot of HP, but a lot of Speed , Attack Speed and Critical.

Diabolico and I tested a BOW Haste + Royal Haste on his CHAR and it practically shot the same amount of ARROWS than BOW HERO and also NO ROYAL HASTE ...

so my point of view just modify ATTACK TIME of arrows.

About DASH LVL 3 in Human Dagger ??? Take it out immediately or the server will just have Dagger.

152k P attack on DAGGER with DASH lvl3 and 354 Critical hahaha practically a TITAN with FRENZY hahaha

Well makes sense because you guys still don't know how this game works after more than 10 years.

The "Attack speed" of a bow is limited because they bow has a "recovery rate". As you have to load new arrows and cant just perm swing your sword.
For this occasion ncsoft invented the quick recovery bow which IA had in old days and removed it since everyone played with elemental bows QR.

For stupidos:
Haste -> no more speed with bow
Quick recovery -> more attack speed

QR does not work on IA anymore since spadie removed it like ages ago.


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Vorgan - Friday, January 27th, 2023

(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 11:09 AM)xakrete Wrote:
(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 01:41 AM)Spadie Wrote: mwraki said to remove the "Hero bow will get more patk." because it makes PR/HK too strong now.

Are you agree?
I don't see a skill in a weapon as an additional positive, I just think positive when I talk about taking the attack delay from one arrow to another in the SR, since it doesn't have its characteristic of a lot of attack or also a lot of HP, but a lot of Speed , Attack Speed and Critical.

Diabolico and I tested a BOW Haste + Royal Haste on his CHAR and it practically shot the same amount of ARROWS than BOW HERO and also NO ROYAL HASTE ...

so my point of view just modify ATTACK TIME of arrows.

About DASH LVL 3 in Human Dagger ??? Take it out immediately or the server will just have Dagger.

152k P attack on DAGGER with DASH lvl3 and 354 Critical hahaha practically a TITAN with FRENZY hahaha



RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Spadie - Friday, January 27th, 2023

There are 4 things here

Attack speed
Casting Speed
Reuse Delay
Bow Reuse Time (this is the reload arrows time)


The term "Quick Recovery" misleading term that NCsoft uses for both reuse delay and bow reuse time.

Haste makes attack speed faster and reuse delay shorter
Acumen makes casting speed faster and reuse delay shorter.
Recovery skills make only the reuse delay shorter.
DEX effects both attack speed and reuse delay.
WIT effects both casting speed and reuse delay.

Bow reuse time is not a skill effects bow.  There are 3 types of bows each has its own bow reuse time.
Very Slow = 1500ms
Slow = 1000ms
QR = 500ms

Attack speed, casting speed, DEX and WIT all do NOT effect the bow reuse time, it is fixed, that means even if you had 99 DEX with 9999 attack speed, it would still have the same bow reuse time.

On iA to improve QR bows (bows with shorter bow reuse time) we added Recovery skill on the bow.  This was done to make it better and it has been like this since 2006.

Berom is wrong about QR bows on iA. They have always worked and they have never been removed.


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Vorgan - Friday, January 27th, 2023

(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 07:28 PM)Vorgan Wrote:
(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 11:09 AM)xakrete Wrote:
(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 01:41 AM)Spadie Wrote: mwraki said to remove the "Hero bow will get more patk." because it makes PR/HK too strong now.

Are you agree?
I don't see a skill in a weapon as an additional positive, I just think positive when I talk about taking the attack delay from one arrow to another in the SR, since it doesn't have its characteristic of a lot of attack or also a lot of HP, but a lot of Speed , Attack Speed and Critical.

Diabolico and I tested a BOW Haste + Royal Haste on his CHAR and it practically shot the same amount of ARROWS than BOW HERO and also NO ROYAL HASTE ...

so my point of view just modify ATTACK TIME of arrows.

About DASH LVL 3 in Human Dagger ??? Take it out immediately or the server will just have Dagger.

152k P attack on DAGGER with DASH lvl3 and 354 Critical hahaha practically a TITAN with FRENZY hahaha
stop crying


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Vorgan - Sunday, January 29th, 2023

(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 11:09 AM)xakrete Wrote:
(Friday, January 27th, 2023, 01:41 AM)Spadie Wrote: mwraki said to remove the "Hero bow will get more patk." because it makes PR/HK too strong now.

Are you agree
About DASH LVL 3 in Human Dagger ??? Take it out immediately or the server will just have Dagger.

152k P attack on DAGGER with DASH lvl3 and 354 Critical hahaha practically a TITAN with FRENZY hahaha

XAkrate make a wish man Spadie will make true what you want next?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Berom - Tuesday, January 31st, 2023

Quote:Berom is wrong about QR bows on iA. They have always worked and they have never been removed.


Partly true.

What I meant to say is that if your attack speed is this high, there is no other way but QR to increase the actual attack speed.
I mean there is an recovery tatttoo but is there any other way to increase your dex with items etc?  (except dyse that are not ingame)
Also there is no way to increase dex by buffs right?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Spadie - Tuesday, January 31st, 2023

Some armor adds have +/- DEX.


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Berom - Wednesday, February 1st, 2023

(Tuesday, January 31st, 2023, 06:11 PM)Spadie Wrote: Some armor adds have +/- DEX.
And they work for archers?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - NizzE - Wednesday, February 1st, 2023

why wouldnt an armor that says it adds dex not give dex to an archer?


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Berom - Saturday, February 4th, 2023

(Wednesday, February 1st, 2023, 06:39 PM)NizzE Wrote: why wouldnt an armor that says it adds dex not give dex to an archer?
Because "nothing" works on IA as it says. Probably you can't use a heavy set on a light set use character. Since everything is limited and restricted for "easy use".


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Pashoss - Saturday, February 4th, 2023

well, in iA if you don't know buff/class everything gonna bother you even the OP 2handed classes.


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Berom - Saturday, February 4th, 2023

(Saturday, February 4th, 2023, 08:59 AM)Pashoss Wrote: well, in iA if you don't know buff/class everything gonna bother you even the OP 2handed classes.
The point is that you cannot know the buffs since some does not even work for your class. But the buff does not show you that it does not apply to you since the descriptions are minimal. 
For example SK, you can't play it with blunt or sword, you have to play it with double handed sword to be strong. It just does not make sense since you can't even use your class skills anymore because you are missing a shield (SK had sword/blunt mastery the last time I checked).


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Vorgan - Sunday, February 5th, 2023

OMG what a Brick!


RE: BettyBoop said SR needs boost - Edvard - Thursday, August 24th, 2023

(Sunday, January 22nd, 2023, 11:17 PM)Spadie Wrote: SR is getting boost for BettyBoop next RR

SR will get more patk/matk.
Hero bow will get more patk.
Empower Buff scrolls bug fixed.

Finally the SR will be playable again in Victoria!. BIG THANK YOU TO BETTY AND SPADIE FOR BRINGING THIS UP!!